CIA whistleblower (and master storyteller) John Kiriakou tells Katie about his experience with the defunct presidential pardon process — including a $2 mil shakedown from Rudy Giuliani and refusals from both Trump AND Biden (hence the title!)
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John Kiriakou is the only person to go to jail over the CIA torture program, which he blew the whistle on. He is a former CIA analyst and case officer, a PEN USA Award Winner and best-selling author. He’s the host of Political Misfits and writes at http://johnkiriakou.substack.com
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